Born Again

I have a confession to make. For, roughly, the past month or two, I've been consumed. From personal things, to professional decisions that needed to be made in order for my dreams to materialize, I've allowed my usually muti-pointed focus to narrow to near tunnel vision. In that same time span, I interviewed a very important artist, and kinda rested on it. As I searched my email inbox, a week or so back, I stumbled across said interview, re-read it, and was blown back into reality. The cat I'm featuring here at The Mid BEST is one of those "different" kind of artists. I learned about him through that national hip-hop "bible" that has gone through a lot of changes, when they hosted a nationwide talent competiton called "The Source Of Hip-Hop." His story, with Middle of Da Map, is different because, knowing that this mag is still in it's infancy, after his interview had been conducted, offered (once his interview was published, of course) to help pub the site (and I'm still holding you to it, bro!) around his hometown and through his site! From talking with him, I got to see the inner workings of an artist with a mission and a plan, but, I'm being long-winded... I present to you, Verbal Linguist from KY!!!




"My influences, train of thought, and DEDICATION to the actual craft of writing, is on some throwback shit!" --- Verbal Linguist

Double: First off, it's good to know that you're doing better, fam! With that said, I gotta ask, how did you come up with the concept (theme) for "Rebirth"?


Verb: That's a good question... At first the idea came to me because I had just left a somewhat successful indie label in KY to go solo and felt it was time for a change and rebirth in my personal life and as an artist. And to some degree every track on the album conveys some form of thought process along those lines. I guess that's the "surface level" answer... diggin a little deeper... It ain't hard to tell whats going on out here, fam. We're entering a new era for the world, for better or worse, and I feel we all should be mentally, physically and spiritually prepared. That's the ill thing about, like, the way the cover art came together, for instance, right. The embryo of Earth and all that, but if you notice there's two less obvious, but very strong images going on there too. You got the umbilical cord wrapped around shorty's neck for one, then the outer border of it all has an ancient Egyptian, almost alien feel to it, like your looking through the Predator's screen or some shit from the mothership! That might be a little long of an explanation for your question, but the shit gets deep man. At the same time, I hope I didn't lose anyone based on "theme-ing" my first solo shit (Laughs). I got plenty of other styles, topics and flows for folks, too. It ain't always gonna be some high science metaphysical shit. But its a field that I dig, so, it creeps into the music.


Double: How'd you hook up with the "Source of Hip-Hop" contest a few months back?


Verb: Well, honestly, the internet, man. Straight up. I submitted a track or two, and told them to holler at me when they would be coming through this part of the area. They must have liked what they heard because I got hit up, did what I had to do and made it to the big joint in NY. The funny thing is I didn't even get to do my first showcase in KY, I had to drive my ass up to Dayton (Shout out to Ohio!) and perform up there. Its all love, though.


Double: Most people outside of KY, only associate Kentucky hip-hop with Nappy Roots and G-Mack (both from Louisville). How do you see yourself impacting the Kentucky rap scene?


Verb: Not that it's a big deal or nothing, but let me clear up a couple things...Only a couple of the Nappy Roots bruthas are from tha Ville, and G Mack reps Lexington, KY. Not that it matters really cuz they both hold down the whole state. Anyway, you are right, though. That's just about all folks know about KY, with a few other exceptions. What I hope to bring to the table first and foremost is to represent myself, ya dig?! I got a certain flava about my shit and a whole lot to speak on that may not necessarily represent KY like that. At the same time, KY's my home, so I'm gonna rep it always to some degree. But what I think I offer the scene is an emphasis on lyricism, realism, and no bitchassness (laughing)! Nah, but on the real, a lot of what I have to offer comes from my gifts in things behind the scenes, too. Like, one day my legacy in the state may be more about what I helped establish and set up for other cats to shine rather than my music. Like, I'm a business mind and all around grinder outside the artist aspect, ya know?! It just so happens that I'm nice on the mic, too. Only time will tell what my true impact is... I just do me to the fullest and let the universe shape everything else, man.


Double: Do you have any upcoming projects? If so, when can we expect them?


Verb: Yeah, most definitely... Right now I'm really gearing towards featuring and collabing to spread my presence out a little farther before I drop another official album. So, I'm featuring with a couple of folks outside the US, specifically Germany, Switzerland, UK (maybe this cat from Nigeria that was nice with it), and some cats that I've met further down South of here. I kind of feel the need to touch niggas in the South with something one time. Let 'em know KY is in the building! I got a few ideas for some cold ass "street albums" that you may be able to get on the net or something... I'll have to iron all that out when we get there, no real dates yet though. But, you can stay up-to-date with my moves through www.myspace.com/verballinguist or http://www.verballinguist.com/


Double: Most journalists and critics try to define an artists sound (and most get it wrong!). So, I ask you, how would YOU define it?


Verb: My sound is like... You know, really it's just lyrical, intelligent, grown-ass hip-hop, man. Now, I have my moments where I dip off into some whole other shit, but for the most part, that's what it is. I follow the line of MCs from a different era, fam. Like, not to diss nothing out now or nothing, but my influences, train of thought, and dedication to the actual craft of writing is on some throwback shit for real. Fortunately, my production and subject matter is in this century though, (chuckles)! ..."This is that shit that banged out on the Nile/live from the Mothership/ straight out the X-Files." Haha, it's something like that!


Double: Who are/were your influences in Hip-Hop?


Verb: Hell, I'm already a little long-winded on here (laughs)! I could go on for days... Nah, my biggest musical influence period is Bob Marley! You wouldn't know from anything about me or my music really, but some of dude's shit is comparable to gospel/inspirational music to me. After him, I'd say Wu-Tang, Nas, Tupac, Chuck D, Redman, Scarface, B.I.G, Slick Rick, Rakim, UGK, Mobb Deep, and the early Duckdown stuff. I just like shit from that era, like '88-'95.


Double: This has always been an hot-button question for me; What do you guys consider Kentucky: Southern or Midwestern?


Verb: This is a hot topic around here, especially for rappers that don't know which to rep... Personally I look at KY as a transition state in terms of geography, so it would have to be consider MidWest or some new shit like MidEast. I've even heard cats screamin' Mid South, which I ain't ridin with (chuckles)! The tradition is that Louisville is the gateway to the South, but KY never was all the way down with the Confederate movement in the Civil War, neither. So I guess it just depends on who you're talking to and how they feel. Plus, certain areas in the state have a more MidWest feel to them than others. So who knows... Personally, I don't give a shit, but it's always an interesting convo, fa sho.


Double: What do you think it will take for the Midwest to "explode", as seen in Houston, Atlanta, and now, Miami?


Verb: I think it's always been revelant. Some of the best MCs of the past and the present came from the Midwest. The only thing I see missing is having an artist with a strong business mind behind them. Like most of the great Midwest artist was just flexin' they craft really. To me, Midwest MCs have always been nice, lyrically, compared to other regions and more specifically, the Midwest has had some of the best Spitters, flow-wise, ever. That's a midwestern niche... Flow. But we need, like, a Midwest(ern) Master P muthafucka to come through and let his nuts hang one time (no homo). Cuz, I really think its more of a power thing than anything else. With the exception of a couple of labels, the East, West, and South got all the venues and outlets. Midwest MCs gotta go somewhere else to get a name, ya dig?!


Double: As a part of Hip-Hop culture, there are aspects that, everyone must admit, promote and condone negative ideals. How can WE (as a part of Hip-Hop) change the public's perception (of the culture) and it's music?

Verb: Unfortunately, I don't know if there is much we can do. The fact is, even muthfuckas that love rap, love it for the negative aspects of the music... The anger, the materialism, the misogyny, the violence. These are all very lucrative and well loved aspects of rap music. I mean, obviously I don't lean in that direction, and there are several other really good cats out there, underground and mainstream, that have something to say beside the staus quo. So, hopefully, the more success we have, the more the game will start to flip over to a new page. And that would trickle into the way hip-hop is seen as an artform.


Double: Where can we see you perform soon?

Verb: I'm making my rounds in Lexington and the surrounding area right now. My next show is about three weeks off in Lex, and I'm taking dates for some of these homecomings going on right now. Nothing in stone yet. Once again, folks can keep up with me on MySpace or http://www.verballinguist.com./


Double: I've heard that here, in Indianapolis, that unity is somewhat waning. What type of unity (between artists) is there in Kentucky?


Verb: It's probably about the same here, man. Like, some folks been clicking up lately and I'm peeping their moves or whatever... I'm not noticing any kind of real benefits from the "all in together" movement, though. I honestly just don't think that blueprint of unifying as a movement works for everyone in every market.


Double: Do you think that skills like freestyling or battle rapping help make someone a better artist?

Verb: Freestyling, yes. Battle rapping, hell no. I think you tap in to different parts of the brain or something. Like, freestyling helps you gain cadence, flow, style, etc... Battle rapping just sharpens your skills as a comedian. Maybe, just maybe, you can learn how to rock a crowd better through battling.


Double: Once upon a time, I lived in Kentucky (shout to all of Earlington, Madisonville, Hopkinsville, Bowling Green, etc!), and I came into my own assumptions (about the area/state). What is the biggest misconception about Kentucky Hip-Hop (that YOU'VE encountered)?

Verb: That we worship Nappy Roots and everyone knows them, wants to sound like them or is otherwise on their dick. Nothing against those guys at all, but I've been asked about them everywhere I go outside the state!


I told, ya'll! I gotta send a bunch of love out to Kentucky, man, I love visiting that state. My folks in Bowling Green, (Big Wes, Li'l Wes, Fontasia hope ya'll doin' good down there!). Nappy Roots (Big V, Skinny Deville), and go get their new album "The Humdinger" in-stores now! My guy Divine Da Instagata, (can't forget about him) out in da 'Ville. But, I'm feeling myself, right now, doin' all this name dropping, so I'm gonna leave you guys with this...


Middle Of Da Map Magazine coming '09... Peace.

Money On Ice

Family, family, family... That's what this really boils down to, honestly. You, as my faithful readers, are my extended family. Your comments, the love you show here at midwestbeastsdotblogspotdotcom AND at da-infection.blogspot.com, the love you show the artists here and through their websites/myspace pages, etc. is the ULTIMATE expression of that love.


With that out of the way, I introduce to you tonight, a real treat. My guest at the Mid BEST is the first producer profiled here, as well as a young man I had the pleasure of watching mature over the last few years. I won't lie, I'm a bit biased when it comes to this interview because of the expectations held for him, as well as my own personal sense of accomplishment with his success... Yeah, I know. Let me stop with my nepotism and pandering, I introduce you to CA$H FARGO!!!


"This is the first day of the rest of my life. I don't remember anything from nineteen years ago. All I know is TODAY!" -- CA$H FARGO

RClark- What got you into music?

CFargo- I got into music real early, I wanted to rap and me and a few of my friends from elementary school had a rap group but the thing was we didn't have the money to buy beats from people back then I didn't feel like buying the beats from other people was worth it anyway, so i got a demo version of fruity loops, visited some online forums on Soundclick, found a mentor and BAM! I started learning and learning more and more about how to produce

RClark- You started very young producing How positive or negative did your age impact the people willing to work with you?

CFargo- When I was that young nobody was taking me seriously, a kid in his early teens producing? Unheard of, and he's actually GOOD? Yea right, nobody even wanted to give me a listen It was kind of frustrating cause I listen to producers from here and I listen to peoples mixtapes and albums from Indianapolis, and I'll go ahead and go on the record and say this: The production isn't half as good as the tracks I was making when I was 16! There is a lot of watered down, uninspired production going on and I'm still in a lot of people's eyes one of the COLDEST, if not THEE COLDEST in this city, hands down. Self proclaimed at 16, but critically acclaimed at 19...

RClark- Being from Indianapolis, I know that the sound hasn't been really defined yet? What do you bring to the table (sonically) to help the city establish itself in Hip-Hop?

CFargo- Sonically I'm on some next level production, the difference between me and these other "Producers" from Indianapolis, and it's not a cocky or arrogant thing, is I push the boundaries. It all stems from who my influences are, some of these dudes never sat down in a record store and listened to some records for hours straight just to get a feel for which way this artist's drums were panned, and which way the vocals were recorded and layed over the track to give it another feel. When I'm working with Amani, do you know how much better my production comes out? It's like, were the dynamic duo in this game, WE ARE Indianapolis. We ARE setting the standard for what REAL music is supposed to sound like.

RClark- Do you have any upcoming projects? If so, when can we expect them?

CFargo- "CashMani" The Mixtape coming soon, This record is going to be crazy being that it's me and Amani's first full length, all production done by CA$H FARGO type of record. Everyone knows me for "Bitch I'm Paid" and "A to the M" among others but a full length mixtape Fargo and Amani... I think it's going to officially set the standard for this city. www.myspace.com/streetfoodmuzik"Rowdy Superstar" - Tick Tock Remix (Prod. CA$H FARGO) This will be my first international project. I'm remaking a track for Rowdy Superstar from London. It's actually going to be like... a BIG, BIG record for me so it's kind of a big deal. Be on the lookout for that. "Meta-4", I have a track produced on Meta-4's "Rap Ramadan" album. If your not familiar with Meta-4, he's an artist from New York, met him when I was around 17 or something and we been making music ever since. Check him out www.myspace.com/metaquatro.

RClark- Me and you go back some years (Shout out to Midtown Music!). Listening to beats you've created lately, I can hear how you've grown musically. What's the process like (now that you're older), that you go through, when you start working on a new beat?

CFargo- I remember Midtown Music (laughs), I couldn't get anybody to listen to my music. I remember running down a entire CD with you and your face just... scrunching up all crazy like (laughs)! That's when I knew I was going in the right direction. I go through changes with my music, I don't have a particular sound, or a particular way I like to do things. I just go in and feel it. Sometimes I might like to sample so I'll listen to some records and hear particular SOUNDS, I hate when people take entire LOOPS and just loop the Sh*% out of it, put some drums and call it a beat. I look at everything like a puzzle, man take that sample, chop and flip that SH&T a couple different ways, try some effects, if it feels great.. Just do it. Don't go with the NORM... I'm working on my Youtube channel so they can see Fargo making a beat, I'm just all over the place man!!

RClark- What can the public expect (in the future) from Indianapolis, as far as new acts, or people that we should be checking for?

CFargo- CASHMANI, CASHMANI, CASHMANI, CASHMANI, CASHMANI, CASHMANI, CASHMANI, AND MORE... CASHMANI! Nuff Said?

Amani www.myspace.com/streetfoodmuzik

Gutta Boiz (http://www.myspace.com/theguttaboiz

DON V http://www.myspace.com/donvakabigbiznezz

RClark- What are you currently listening to in your IPOD?

CFargo- This is gonna trip some people out, Let's run down an artist list right quick: Amani, Pharrell, Kanye West, Coldplay, Teriyaki Boyz, Cassius, Stereolab, Fall Out Boy, Fela Kuti, and I'm not just saying that to sound cool I'm like actually serious right now!

RClark- I know that solidarity between artists in the city hasn't been strong, lately. Do you, as a producer, ever feel a backlash behind the non-unity?

CFargo- Indiana HipHop awards = BULLSHIT! That's all I have to say... Fargo should have been producer of the year, regardless of if I was on everybody from here's project! I STILL had the COLDEST overall production and the best QUALITY work. Period!

RClark- Recently I spoke with AMANI (feature interview coming SOON!), and he gave one hell of a co-sign saying, "CA$H Fargo is, hands down, the COLDEST (producing)! Bar none!" How do statements like that make you feel?

CFargo- Like I'm doing something right, but I can't just let it get to my head and run around like... "Yo, I'm bout to charge a million a track!" *Sings* (A Milli, A Milli, A Milli) *Laughs* Nah, I just gotta take it as I'm doing something right, I'm running in the right direction with this music.

RClark- I heard the track "A To The M" (among others) on AMANI's new mixtape "12 Rounds". As always, I was blown away, by your production! How did you come up with that concept?

CFargo- Me and Amani came up with that, sitting here listening to (Prince's) "Diamonds and Pearls" and he was like, "Yo! They say all the letters in my name!", and I was like, "Let me make this happen right quick"... "Snip, Click, Pop, Pow, and BAM!"... you got "A to the M" one of the coldest produced tracks by ya boi CA$H FARGO!

RClark- What's more important to you, right now: Fame from producing or respect as one of the best?

CFargo- It used to be respect, and I used to want people to be like, "Man he's the first from Nap to do this or he's the first to do that", now *(excuse my french)* I just want the checks, straight up. Just cut me a check or have my bread when you come to work with me, I'm not expensive. I'm down to earth and humble, but it's gotten to the point where wanting respect from people is just.. unattainable in this city because were all fighting for one thing. "The first to be this" or "The first to do this" and that's one reason why Atlanta is a hotbed for music right now and were not making that much of a ruckus... All we need to do is link up and make some groundbreaking work. That's it!

RClark- Who haven't you worked with, that you'd want to at this stage in your career?

CFargo- Pharrell, Kanye West, but these are things that I'm trying to speak into existence. But when it comes to others and especially from the city I really want to work with everyone from my city. Some of these people probably heard about me or heard my work and don't know how to get at me for beats, those are the people who I want to work with. Definately need to hear Double Ii on one of my tracks tho.. been a long time coming.

RClark- For the sake of artists (local, independent, or major label) looking to get beats from you, how do they get in touch? And what is the going rate for a CA$H Fargo track?

www.myspace.com/fargokid

http://www.ilike.com/artist/CA$H+FARGO

fargotrackz@gmail.com, I'm negotiable with prices, just bring your budget to me and tell me what your trying to achieve.

RClark- Ultimately, what do want your legacy to be in Hip-Hop? What do you want people to know about CA$H Fargo?

CFargo- That's he's the most versatile producer they're probably ever going to encounter. He makes Hyphy. He makes Crunk. He makes Pop, R&B, Rock and does it all so well. Anybody can say they can produce in all genres, but can they make a noteworthy transition? Fargo.. Strongly Doubts It!

Be easy fam,

Double Ii

Close To Greatness

Double duty tonight, fam (just know that I work hard for YOU!)... Next up is a group I found, believe it or not, on Wikipedia (gotta love that place...) during my research for THIS very site... I believe I owe them something for pointing me down this path. Anyway, these cats are vets in the game, and after this interview, I... man, speechless, read on...



"That's not reality, that's a few hours of footage of (people) trying to personify cool..."-- Rusty P's

MdM- I have spoken to a few groups (here in Indianapolis), so with my first question, I'd like to pose a something I've asked them: Who's the best in your crew?

RP's- Our crew is based on equality. There is no best.

MdM- How difficult is it (exposure-wise) being a Hip-Hop artist in the Midwest, and to a greater degree, a state not neccesarily known for hip-hop (like Wisconsin)?

Rp's- It's extremely difficult. Although exposure these days seems to be a matter of who you know and what doors they could potentially open for you. All it takes is to know the right person with the right connection and the rest is up to the artist. We've done alright with exposure. There are people who know about us in several continents, which is pretty nice. We just don't have the scouts or agents coming here to check for us, so it's our job to spread our music as far as we can, which is the whole point in the first place.

MdM- How different is the response (if any) between when you perform in your hometown as opposed to out of town shows?

RP's- Funny you ask this. We used to comment all the time about the difference between a home town crowd and an out of town crowd. Milwaukee is a strange city in as much as a lot of the artists here aren't very supportive of other artists and most of the people who make up the hip hop scene call themselves artists as well. These people have adopted the attitude of "That should be me up there, fuck those dudes". As long as we've been making music and performing in Milwaukee, these days we get a pretty good crowd that come specifically to see us and we put on great shows here. Out of town, it's just a bunch of people who either came to see us or just to have a good time and either way, we give them what they came for. We usually get a great response out of town.

MdM- Do you have any upcoming projects? If so, when can we expect them?

RP's- Well, this is tough to answer. Our idea machine is always turned on so anytime we finish a big project, we always say let's chill for a little bit. But it always ends up with one of saying, hey, I got this great idea, and we're all with it so we set sail on another mission.As far as actual projects, we have been talking about possibly doing another Rusty Ps vs. Milwaukee album, but if we do that it likely won't be released for another 2 years or so. We are in the beginning stages of creating a Mega group with the people who became good friends of ours after having performed with them so many times. The idea was to put together us, the Rusty Ps, The Crest (from Madison) and Carnage (from Minneapolis) and put out an EP and build a small tour off of it. So far we've gotten as far as everybody being down to do it. We'll see what happens.We're always working on new Rusty Ps material as well, it's just a matter of how we want to present it. Still haven't made any decisions about that.You can always check the website or myspace for updates on projects and releases.

MdM- Most journalists and critics try to define an artist's sound and most, if not ALL, get it wrong. With that said, how would YOU describe it?

RP's- I guess the best way to describe our sound is honest, funk based love music. Not love like New Edition love. Love like, the music we make is designed so that it can be enjoyed by anyone, anywhere. The music we make is made out of love for the craft, love for the art and love for the people, so in a sense we are sharing our love of music with the world. And it's funky!

MdM- Aside from yourself, what can the public expect (in the near future) from artists in Milwaukee?

RP's- I think you're just going to start to see and hear a lot more of it. There's been a lot more groups and acts coming out lately. Hopefully you'll see more solid projects that give people a better idea of what's going on here than what you may have heard.

MdM- You guys have formed some solid relationships over the years. With some groups not lasting more than 2-5 years, your original group was (loosely) together since elementary school. How did you guys do it?

RP's- We're family. That's the only way to explain it. It's unconditional love. Of course you get on each others nerves sometimes, but you always love your brother anyways. We're all like minded individuals who came together to achieve the same thing. It really makes the music that much deeper when you consider that we're not just trying to make a hit, we're making music that, in the end, what you hear is what our collective souls sound like. It's a priceless element to what we do that can't be imitated or faked. It comes from knowing each other as well as we do.

MdM- What do you think it will take for the Midwest to "explode" as seen recently in places like Miami, Houston, and Atlanta?

RP's- I really don't know. The way the music business works changes so much it's hard to say what makes any event happen at any given time. I would like to think that it's just gonna take more hard work, more people making music because they love to make music and more people paying attention to us, but I really can't say.

MdM- As a part of Hip-Hop culture, there are aspects that, everyone must admit, promote & condone negative ideals. How can WE (as a part of Hip-Hop) change the public's perception of Hip-Hop (as a culture) and it's music?

RP's- To me, it's all about the music that's being made. Everything starts with the youth and when they listen to music, they're looking to be told what's cool and in turn, that's what they do. Kids don't look to their parents to find out what cool is. They look at videos and see rappers spending ridiculous amounts of money, hanging out with fine ass women and they think, shit that looks pretty cool to me. But that's not reality, that's a few hours of footage of people trying to ultimately personify "cool". I think what we can do is be conscious of what's going on in the world and make music that honestly reflects that. In some cases you're going to have music that reflects the negativity as well because negativity is a part of reality. As the music makers, we have the power to change minds through the messages we put out into the world. Every word we speak and every note sends a vibration into the universe and that vibration affects everything. Let's make more positive vibrations and change the world in a positive way. I think the culture has become very accepting of anyone who wants to be a part of it, like it was in the beginning. This is a beautiful thing. They way it was meant to be. I think the more we can convey that hip hop was created to be a form of inspiration, a form of education and a means of speaking ones mind, the better off we'll all be.

MdM- Do you guys have any tours lined up for people to come see you?

RP's- We're just doing spot dates here and there, and recording as much as possible. If we get this project with the Crest and Carnage off the ground we'll be touring for that. It will be a circus of entertainment. Each act will do a set of their own and to headline the show we'll all come back up and do our group thing with everyone. If we get this going it will be huge, and a brand new way to experience hip hop, so keep your fingers crossed!

MdM- Being from Indianapolis, the first I'd ever heard come from Milwaukee was Coo Coo Cal. But, you guys are 3-time WAMI (Wisconsin Area Music Industry) award winners (5 time nominees), and voted "Best Of" 5 times. How do you guys stay so consistent?

RP's- We just don't stop. We've never taken a break. We are always working on something and working to get our music to the people. I guess we're always relevant because we've never not been actively participating in the music culture of Milwaukee. We don't have to worry and say, "well, it's been a long time, I don't know how this is going to be received." We just keep doing what we do, and thankfully there's been people who love it and give us some recognition for it. It feels good to have people vote for us like that. We've never solicited votes from anyone for anything. If we win, cool, if we don't, cool.

MdM- You guys have a hell of a resume, almost 15 years in the game, working with acts as diverse as The Pharcyde to Eminem. Does the thought of "retirement" ever come across your minds?

RP's- Nope. The only thing we talk about is evolving. What are we gonna do next. How we're gonna change with the times in order to stay relevant without compromising our artistic integrity. I think all of us will be making music of some kind one way or another. I'm sure at some point we'll get sick of only making hip hop music and start to branch out to other genres. Will the Rusty Ps last forever? Who knows. I can say that we have no plans to stop. We all love music way too much to not have it be a part of our lives.

MdM- Are there any acts that you haven't worked with? If so, who and why?

RP's- There's a lot of acts we haven't done anything with. I would love to work with Kool Keith, I think he would have invaluable knowledge to share on top of being funny as hell. I would like to work with Shock G from Digital Underground. The closest I've gotten to that was doing a show with them and taking a bunch of shots of Hennessey at the bar with Shock. I could go on really. Ultimately I just want to work with people who I can learn from.

Man, I appreciated these cats blessing me with this interview. Not only because I've ONLY posted hometown talent (which isn't bad, but Nap isn't the ONLY city in the Midwest), but to give some insight to how the game works in places like Milwaukee, STL, etc. If ya'll wanna hear more from the Rusty P's, check 'em out at their online home, http://www.rustyps.com/. And like I always say, if you're NOT supporting your locals, you SHOULD be!

Peace and God Bless,

Double Ii

Swag To Spare

Aight, so the other day I'm sitting at the crib, working hard for this Mid BEST thang, and a cat I've known for years got me hip to the man I'm introducing you to, today. You know, I've been privileged to speak to a lot of talented, intelligent artists, but, Don Vito, really opened my eyes. I won't say I was surprised, but I was intrigued... I think you will be, too...



"I was born and raised in Naptown... I don't know HOW to be anything else!"-- Don V

Ii- What got you into music?

DV- Man... as bad as it may sound DEATH got me into music. My father passed in January of 1993. I was only 8. Six days later My grandmother passed. My siblings and I were sent down to Corydon, IN. (20 miles from Louisville, KY.) to live with our great aunt and before we had left I had made a tape recording of (local radio stations) 96.3 WHHH and 105.7 WTLC. I listened to those tapes for about 8 months strait until we moved back to Naptown. When we came back I just started putting my feelings down on paper.Then I started to rhyme and everything I wrote I would recite to "Art Of Noise," a beat used by 105.7 for the intro to the Mr. Loverman Show. I never got serious about anything til I was 12 or 13, and I recorded for the first time.

Ii- Why is it that local artist's have such a hard time working with each other?

DV- Most everyone makes most situations about themselves and don't much care to let the next man shine. Then everyone feels that they gotta make it for themselves, which is true, but if you know something the next man doesn't it shouldn't hurt or hinder your hustle to give them some advise or guide them in the right direction. Whether or not they choose to listen is on them.

Ii- How difficult is it to get radio play in Indianapolis, and do you think radio is as vital now as it once was in the past?

DV- I bet that most locals from Naptown would say it is very difficult. I personally have not tried nor do I care to get radio spins at this time. We (AMANI and I) hit the streets first. Also I haven't even released anything that I've wanted spun on the radio. Most locals here just complain and haven't done anything worth complaining about. If you do your homework you will find that there is a procedure to follow. If you don't follow that procedure, you won't get spins. I do know now that the radio is vital just off the fact that we've had discussions with label executives that have said they've heard about us though the grapevine but want us to get radio plays. So when I drop something single worthy to myself... I will try AND GET plays.

Ii- Do you have any upcoming projects? If so, when can we expect them?

DV- As you may know AMANI's "12 Rounds" dropped Oct. 2nd and I have two tracks that he has featured at the beginning of the mixtape. I will be dropping a mixtape around Christmas (or) New Years called "Mr. 400 Pound Swag" so look out for that... in the meantime you can check out my dude J MIX's "I See The End in the Beginning" vol.3 hosted by me, and stay updated by checking me out on myspace.com/donvakabigbiznezz or myspace.com/streetfoodmuzik. Also, catch up on the silly things we do on youtube.com keyword: AMANI39

Ii- On the mixtape "12 Rounds" you have 2 tracks, one of which happens to be a personal favorite, "We Dope, We Fresh." I gotta ask, how did that track come about?

DV- Right on, I'm glad u like it. Really it was an accident I got the beat off soundclick.com. I had it on my cell phone memory card (cuz we joke around and freestyle a lot in the car). We just left the club and was sitting outside Club Level in my Caprice, just got done talking to some females and, jokingly, I turned the beat on. AMANI immediately started singing "We parked outside, I got your broad, u know we fly" and I added " We Dope, We Fresh!" We laughed it off then he said what did we just say and from there it was on. I recorded the track on my birthday and (since then) people seem to love it.

Ii- Most journalists and critics try to define an artist's sound and most, if not ALL, get it wrong. With that said, how would YOU describe your sound/style?

DV- I would describe my style as ME. I was born and raised here in Naptown and I don't know how to be anything else. So when you hear my music, it's me expressing myself the way I know how. You will not hear lyrics about things that I haven't lived. As far as my beat selection goes, I'm more prone to pick southern style tracks with heavy bass lines, crisp snares and fast hi-hats.

Ii- What can the public expect (in the future) from you and your crew?

DV- In one word... GREATNESS. I don't necessarily have a crew, it's just myself and AMANI. We both have tremendous talent, drive and focus. There is nothing we cannot do, let alone if we put our minds together. We are determined, so there is no other way but up.

Ii- Who are/were your influences for getting into Hip-Hop?

DV- I had a lot of artists I was influenced by but, I've always been a heavy dude most of my life so I took more liking to the "heavyweights" in the game... literally. Such as Scarface, EightBall, Notorious B.I.G., E-40, Big Pun, Bun B, etc... Other artists I follow and respect now are: T.I. , Kanye West , Eminem, Lupe Fiasco, Ludacris, Jeezy and Gorilla Zoe

Ii- What was the FIRST local record you heard, and how did it make you feel?

DV- Preeny Mo's,"Naptown Riders." It felt good to hear somebody on a song reppin' my city! It made me feel like I was part of something. The first video I saw of someone from Indiana was Ric Jilla's "On Da what"... That made me feel good, too...

Ii- As a part of Hip-Hop culture, there are aspects that, everyone must admit, promote & condone negative ideals. How can WE change the public's perception of Hip-Hop (as a culture) and it's music?

DV- I don't think that there is a correct answer for that, if there is one at all. I can say is that people who perceive hip-hop in a negative manor usually don't listen to it nor have they tried. When certain situations turn sour, people need a scapegoat and that is why hip-hop gets the bad wrap most times because people don't want to take responsibility for there own action so they lay the blame on us.

Ii- Where can we see you perform soon?

DV- You can usually catch us every Wednesday at the Ugly Monkey downtown, we have a show in Franklin, IN Oct.11th and we have shows at the Caribbean Village on Oct.31st along with (Indianapolis artist) Keylo G.

Ii- How has the mixtape game helped (or hurt) artists in Indianapolis?

DV- I don't feel that it has done either. People just need to get out here to these shows and support! These artists need to put some money behind their craft and get a solid street team together and hit the streets hard. There are so many people who rap and actually have talent that will never be paid attention to because they don't invest in themselves.

Ii- As lame as it sounds, is Nap gonna have to create a dance in order to get noticed?

DV- I dunno...Maybe. Gimmicks aren't my thing but if somebody were to be creative in that manner and got more people paying attention, more power to them.

Ii- When I first got in contact with you, I mentioned that during a previous interview that AMANI mentioned you and spoke very highly of you. How did you two hook up, musically?

DV- Man... I met AMANI back in 2002 thru another friend of mine at the only under 21 spot called J2 out in Mooresville. J2 had rap battles every week with a prize of $100. Our mutual friend would get in the battles and win the prize money. Every so often AMANI would say "I'm tired of the same people winning and battling, I can do this!" He started battling every weekend and he would win. He won about 10 consecutive times and we was just chillin one night and I was like "What you gonna do next?" He said, "What do you mean?," then I came up with the idea that we should do a mixtape, duplicate 10,000 copies and give them away all around the city. Four mixtapes later you have us here right now.

A New Breed of Hip-Hop

Here we are again, people! I been hard at work with this, and I can't wait for you to see the line up I got comin' for you cats, too! This week, I got my guy iLL from DaFilled on the line to give us some insight to one of Indiana's BEST hip-hop groups. sit back and take in some knowledge...




"We come in Peace..."

DblIi- How did "DaFilled" come together?

iLL- We used to be in a group called Homeless that had 8 members. After 2 years of doing shows and not having a project, everyone fealt that our different views made it hard to move forward. That group broke up and we kept in touch. We all knew that we wanted to keep moving so we decided to form another group Then in december 2000 we did our first show as DaFilled.

DblIi- How difficult is it (exposure-wise) being a Hip-Hop group in the Midwest, and to a greater degree, one more faith and spiritually based, as opposed to the gangsta ethos that's become so commonplace?

iLL- It's not easy for anybody coming out of Indianapolis. Most artist would rather be rescued, than to overflow into other markets. We knew from the beginning that whatever success was, it wasn't here. We began traveling from the get-go. Our difference(in message) has always been a plus for us. We didn't get added to many shows because of it, but as we look back; those show weren't about much, anyway.

DblIi- Is it harder being a Christian rap group?

iLL- We are not a Christian rap group. We usually don't say anything about it when we are called one because we don't have time to explain. A gospel rap, christian rap, or holy hip hop artist performs for the purpose of bringing attention to Jesus Christ. DaFilled uses our talents to communicate godly principles that can be applied in everyday circumstances. Where as a "christian rap" group might say 'Stop smokin that weed'; we would come up with a hook that talks aout how messed up our life is because we won't let go of the poison that is distracting us from our problems. See the difference?

DblIi- Okay, okay. But being Christian, do you take offense to people who claim there CAN'T be a "gospel hip-hop"?

iLL- Yep. That's nonsense. Visit http://www.illspot.net and tell me there is no such thing. We just don't do gospel hip hop.

DblIi- Do you have any upcoming projects? If so, when can we expect them?

iLL- iLL Holiday aka iLL of DaFilled aka iLL Logikal has a project out in early '09 called Mixed Messages. Braille is working on a project with some of the hottest artists and producers in the midwest. Alpil has recently been married and is taking time off to learn his wife. '09 is a year full of surprises coming from DaFilled camp....So look OUT!

DblIi- Most journalists and critics try to define an artist's sound and most, if not ALL, get it wrong. With that said, how would YOU describe it?

iLL- We want to meet people where the are using this gift of Hip Hop. We are a Hip Hop group....Period! Journalists have to use artists as adjectives. They have to compare to paint a picture of an artist's style. We are Jay-Z meets Marvin Gaye meets Andre 3000. We are where hip-hop is headed. Pure. Uncut. Passion in motion.

DblIi- You guys have won a UMA (Underground Music Award) for "Most Promising Rap Group," have been nominated 3 times, and were the first and ONLY faith-based hip-hop group to win. How does it feel to have that kind of recognition?

iLL- We were actually nominated 5 times... It is a blessing! We were also the first group nominated from Indiana.

DblIi- I know that iLL Holiday is very politically active, hosting voter registration drives and the like. Is this something the whole group feels is important, and why is it so?

iLL- (I've) always been engaged in the community. That's (my) thing. The group came out with a song in response to America's decision to go to war after September 11th attacks. We all believe that there is a time when not saying anything is thing worst thing an artist can do. We want to always use our platform of influence through music to promote positive change.

DblIi- What do you think it will take for the Midwest to "explode" as seen recently in places like Miami, Houston, and Atlanta?

iLL- Get out of town. We can't keep doing the same sets at the same clubs and expect people to know who we are. We have to spread our music across the country. It will make people look for us when they are in our region. We don't have a united movement, so get to somewhere where you are different and use it to stand out!

DblIi- As a part of Hip-Hop culture, there are aspects that, everyone must admit, promote & condone negative ideals. How can WE (as a part of Hip-Hop) change the public's perception of Hip-Hop (as a culture) and it's music?

iLL- You can't convince someone that you are what you are not. Be different and people will peep game.

DblIi- Where can we see you perform soon?

iLL- DaFilled currently isn't performing, but look for us in '09. iLL keeps shows in and out of town. Check out at www.myspace.com/illholiday (for more info).

DblIi- What is the ultimate goal for DaFilled?

iLL- Use our influence to convince people to become better people.

DblIi- Who were some of your influences in you becoming hip-hop artists?

iLL- Too many to name. (OutKast, KRS One, RUN DMC, De La Soul, Jay Z, LL Cool J, Tribe Called Quest...to name a few)

DblIi- Anyone who's seen you perform, has seen you guys throw up doves. What is the significance of it and has it ever been misconstrued as something else?

iLL- Yeah people always think it is a gang sign... (laughing) Terrence J from 106th and Park (hahahaha!) (It's) the Dove of Peace (God's Holy Spirit). We come in Peace.

DblIi- Faith-based or otherwise, what is there to expect from Indianapolis is in the near future?

iLL- Nothing if we can't get into supporting each other.

If you guys wanna get more info on iLL, Alpil, or Big Braille you can find them at:

myspace.com/dafilledmyspace.com

or

myspace.com/illholiday

Get the FREE Ringtone of his Groundbreaking Single "Baseball Cap" just text "902950" to 69937

Thanks for stopping by the spot again! If your an artist trying to get featured, hit me up on myspace (myspace.com/twenty24) or through the email (doubleeye@tmail.com).

Peace,

Double Ii

Time For A Change

What up, peoples?! I hope you didn't think that I would leave you hanging on this forum, didya? Nah, didn't think you did! Well, kiddies, I come bearing gifts in the form of one of the coldest from my hometown N-A-P! I've known this dude for a while, and PLEASE don't think I'm only giving love to home (I'll be posting cats from Ohio, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Kentucky, and Michigan REAL soon!). Anyway, without further ado, I introduce you to alpha.




"This is in my BLOOD. I couldn't quit if I wanted to!"

-- alpha.

DBLIi- What got you into hip-hop?

alpha- Man... It's always kind of been around me, even as a kid. I remember my aunt's boyfriend had a record store when I was like, 6, and he let me pick out 3 records, one of which was Run DMC's 'It's Like That'. And I think it was the drums that hit so hard, and how forceful and powerful Run's voice was, it just grabbed me; I'd listen to it as much as I could. And just as I got older, the more I learned about the culture and was exposed to it, coupled with all I was learning in school about poetry and writing (I was quite the geek, especially in English), I was just swept into it all and couldn't NOT be a part of having my voice heard.

DBLIi- How difficult is it (exposure-wise) being a Hip-Hop artist in the Midwest, and to a greater degree, a state not neccesarily known for hip-hop?

alpha-That's a great question, and to keep it real, its a perspective question; half empty/half full kinda. Because, while yes, we are still not as adamantly recognized as a whole in Hip Hop, as a region, (although we've had our blips, from Twista & Common from the Chi, Hi-Tek & BONE from Ohio, Eminem & J. Dilla from the D, St. Louis, etc.) I think that having that underdog mentality of feeling there is something to prove is what drives us that much harder to fuel our passions and represent home more than others. Add to that the fact that we are the hotbed of diverse and unexpected blends of styles because we listen and are influenced by EVERYTHING, I think that works to our advantage as making us unique and diverse as artists. The downside is the lack of representation of any of the larger record labels in major midwestern markets. Yeah, there's Chicago, but they have enough artists there alone looking to get on that they don't waste time combing surrounding areas for pure talent. So its definitely a double edged sword. Your exposure is only limited to your personal work ethic.

DBLIi- How different is the response (if any) between when you perform at home as opposed to out of town shows?

alpha-Wow... Totally different. There are a lot of influences that I reference in my particular style that a lot of people here at home may not be up on (i.e. Dilla, MadLib, Thes One, etc.) But when I hit places or rock with people from different markets that are familiar with those same influences, they 'get' it, and it makes that audience connection that much more live, relatable, and powerful. But all musical relativity aside, whether they get it or not, nothing ever, EVER beats the feeling of rockin for your home crowd. I go hard each and every set I do, but there's always something special about home.

DBLIi- Do you have any upcoming projects? If so, when can we expect them?

alpha-Well, I have my teaser joint, 'the FIXtape' circulating out there now, which features the biography track about Barack Obama called 'Obama 08 (Do the Knowledge)', which has been very well received. The next joint on deck to be released here soon is 'pg. 1', which is less of a mixtape; more of a 'street album' in the fact that its crafted as an album, but not an official LP release. It's in the mixing stages now and will be available in time for the holiday season. Also, my first, original LP, 'Flight' is in the final recording stages; its about 68% complete. I'm also featured as the second lead single off 'The Hurt Game' compilation from Shadowkat Nightson, my manager and mentor. The lead single off that compilation is the title track, from Shadow himself featuring our man Rhymefest. The comp also features Nappyville, Riddles, Sho-Down, Trillogy, and many others. That's releasing soon as well. And I've been doin features on various people's projects, from Hip Hop to poetry to rock and everything in between; so yeah, the kid's been workin. Keep checkin alphaisforever.blogspot.com weekly for updates. I'm reformatting my blogspot and will be updating regularly by months end.

DBLIi- Most journalists and critics try to define an artist's sound and most, if not ALL, get it wrong. With that said, how would YOU describe it?

alpha-And THAT, is THE question. I hate to sound cliche' and say 'I don't sound like NOBODY, son' (chuckles), but in all reality, I really sound like everybody that I've ever heard and learned from, thrown into a pot, and spiced up with a generous portion of my life experiences and what made ME. But I have a penchant for storytelling, vividly giving you a visual, and I deliver it in whatever format helps bring it across best, and that crosses genres from poetry/spoken word to rock to Hip Hop to jazz. I want to make a difference by being a voice to the voiceless, telling storied of life from new and unexpected perspectives, as well as showcasing my lyricism and creativity in creating new stories and rhymes.

DBLIi- Aside from yourself, what can the public expect (in the near future) from artists in Indianapolis and the rest of Indiana?

alpha-A LOT. Man, we are so talented, so underrated, and so HUNGRY to get out and show the world our voice, and all the incredible talent we have to offer, from the streets to the suites. I can't wait.

DBLIi- Now, I remember that you were once a part of 625 Entertainment and the group Trillogy. What happened with that situation, or did you simply feel it was time to move on?

alpha-That's my foundation, more than anything else I've been a part of in life, and I learned and grew so much, both personally and professionally. And I will always be thankful for being blessed to work with those brothers for so long and all the strides and breakthroughs we made. I just got to a point that I was unhappy and dissatisfied in myself, and where I was in my life, plus I had just had my baby girl, so there was a lot weighing heavy on my spirit. So without any explanation, I told (current and founding member) Reddy Rock one day 'I Quit.' And it definitely ruffled some feathers, no doubt. And granted, we all haven't really spoken much at all since then, and I owe them my sincerest apologies. But they're doing great, and I am proud of them for pushing on and all they've done since. I just had to do what was best for myself at the time. I took some time off and just worked a regular job, tried to stay away from music. But like that classic movie line, 'just when I thought I could get away... It pulls me right back in!!' This is in my BLOOD, I can't quit if I wanted to. So here I am.

DBLIi- What do you think it will take for the Midwest to "explode" as seen recently in places like Miami, Houston, and Atlanta?

alpha-It's just like the early days of the rise of the South; we still need more unity, more cross collaborations with each other. We're gettin there, bit by bit, true, but the sooner and the more we work together, the sooner we can ALL eat. WELL.

DBLIi- As a part of Hip-Hop culture, there are aspects that, everyone must admit, promote & condone negative ideals. How can WE (as a part of Hip-Hop) change the public's perception of Hip-Hop (as a culture) and it's music?

alpha-Stop just rapping, and go back to creating ART. Genuine, passionate, 'I'd do this even if I could never get paid for it because I LOVE it', ART. Period. And being more responsible with what we create and get behind. But that's just my opinion.

DBLIi- Where can we see you perform soon?

alpha-The next show lined up I believe is opening for obscure Hip Hop legend Kool Keith at the Vogue on Tuesday, October 14th. Then you can catch me performing at the Indiana Hoosiers for Obama Election Night Watch Party at the Sheraton in Keystone at the Crossing on November 4th, along with Indiana Poet Laureate Nominee Tasha Jones. After that, I'll be finalizing my latest album and gearing up for more paid perfomances for the next year and beyond. (For booking, contact nightsons@gmail.com)

DBLIi- You seem to have garnered a lot of respect here in Nap for, not only your lyrical dexterity, but your feelings towards social change. Which means more to you, and why?

alpha-Change. There's a million cats who can rap circles around you with words, but its going out here and making a difference that really matters. Cuz in the end, those words are just all talk; what matters is what volumes one speaks in actions. I was always instilled that it is in action how a man is defined. And I AM the change I wish to see in the world.

DBLIi- Being from a city that is more greatly known for amatuer sports and R&B music, why should Nap be taken MORE seriously when it comes to hip-hop, in your opinion?

alpha-I actually don't feel we should be taken seriously by anyone else until we all begin taking ourselves seriously. Being on top of our business more, working together more, continuing to put out high quality music, and just keeping it pushing forward, pushing the envelope. Once we do that, the world will take notice; we won't have to 'make' anyone do anything. We will be undeniable.

DBLIi- What made you start "AlphaIsForever"?

alpha-(chuckles)... I was looking for inspiration to motivate myself to keep going when I decided to start back rhymin, so I went back and listened to all the joints I listened to comin up, especiall in high school that inspired me to want to rhyme in the first place. And there's this joint by Cappadonna (of all people lol) on his album, 'The Pillage', called 'Check for a N****a'. And there's this one lil adlib part that sounded like he said 'alpha is forever' (which I actually much later found out was more 'outfits forever' lol). But it struck me at that time like 'that's it!' And along the lines of the DeBeers 'a diamond is forever' ads, it was simple, understated, subtle but stylized, and it represented a lot of where I am at this point in my career; the dark silhouette with something tangible in the foreground. Its like 'yeah, its me, but focus on the art; I'm merely the current, the conduit to get it to you'. So there you have it.

DBLIi-On the blog you post music and some poetry. Do you plan on releasing any literary works in the near future?

alpha-Funny you should mention that... I actually have a couple books in the works; poetry and photography, and a book of inspirational anecdotes and wisdoms. I'm also in the process of developing one of my pieces, 'caine & able', into a short stage play. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I'm just stayin busy, staying positive, and doing my best to not take any of my blessings for granted. I've been given a gift; and if I don't use it, He'll take it from me. I plan to hold onto this and use it to help as many people I can until I can do no more.

Daaaaaaaaamn... right? And THIS is only the BEGINNING!!! Keep checking back, like I always tell you, and maybe one of your future new favorites will be giving you some profound insight.

Til next time, Family

Peace and Blessings

Double Ii

P.S. You can find more on alpha. at alphaisforever.blogspot.com.

What We Are

First off, I want to welcome you to your guide to Midwest Hip-Hop. A lot of you are probably only aware of the mainstream acts that have flashed across BET, VH1, and MTV over the last few years. This is more than that. This is more than Kanye, BTNH, Da Brat, Eminem, Nelly, Twista, and the rest. This is about a region of talent that has been overlooked and underappreciated for WAY too long. I mean, WOW. I'm sitting here typing this on my Sidekick® in amazement of what is being accomplished. I mean, this isn't the first hip-hop blog devoted to the Midwest experience. Hell, I wasn't even the first one in my hometown (shouts 2 Midwest Leak™, Scoop™, AMPS®, and INfocus) to attempt something like this! But, I am amazed at WHY this came to be. A while back, I flirted with the prospect of doing a mag... as an EIC. I talked to the proper people, then the proper people stopped talking. Then friends and family started encouraging (and you can read their influence in our tagline), and after wrestling a few demons, the idea was set in motion. What you're reading (and WILL hold in your hands... soon!) is the culmination of a work ethic birthed in 1981 and nurtured by the circumstances of my environment. I know it's cliché, but my intentions are not to do this blog (and magazine) for my own glorification (I pay people to tell me how great I am and how wonderful my ideas are), but to TRULY give recognition to a part of this culture that has gone, for the most part undocumented, due to the fact that our sound can't and hasn't been defined.
I know that there are people that are going to pick up on this issue and ask why I'm choosing to solely cover the Midwest. It's simple, really. We get bombarded with news about Jay-Z, and Lil' Wayne, and Soulja Boy, and T-Pain... Where's the connection to home in that in cities like Rock Island Illinois? Terre Haute, Indiana? Omaha, Nebraska? No disrespect to Wayne, or Jay, or any of my/your/everybody's favorite rapper(s), but, if it's not Midwest, there won't be a huge fuss made. This blog that you're reading is the launching pad for a new future, period. It's for the cats grinding homemade mixtapes on bus stops. For basement, garage, and closet producers finding new ways to freak Fruity Loops®. For the battle cyphers and freestlye sessions in schools with only fist, locker, and desktops acting as percussion. Scribbling bars on notepads while waiting on a train or metros. For those unsigned hypes, next to blows, just need a shots, and independent hustlers. To the kid in Davenport, Iowa who wants to be Jay, or the girl in Madison, Wisconsin who needs an outlet for her voice. Middle of Da Map is finally here.

Check back frequently for stories and interviews with various Midwest artists, dancers, djs, promoters, ANYBODY that helps make the Midwest the Mid-BEST.

Peace